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<DIV>Dobrý den,</DIV>
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<DIV>Z češtinou jsem kamarád tak na půli cesty, ale přesto. Právní text musí
vycházet z logiky věci a ze smyslu samotných slov. Proto si myslím toto:</DIV>
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<DIV>Řekněme si např. toto.</DIV>
<DIV>1) za neznatelnou hranici se považuje hranice, jejíž lomové body nejsou
označeny trvalým způsobem</DIV>
<DIV>no, ale co když bude číselně určená. Tady si tedy nevystačím s jednou
podmínkou.</DIV>
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<DIV>2) za neznatelnou hranici se považuje hranice, která není číselně
určená</DIV>
<DIV>no, ale co když bude trvale stabilizována. Také si nestačím s jednou
podmínkou.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jistě je možné, že nastane kombinace obojího, tedy např.:</DIV>
<DIV>3) hranice není označena trvalým způsobem a zároveň není číselně
určená</DIV>
<DIV>ano tomu také rozumím a podepsal bych</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4) hranice je označena trvalým způsobem a zároveň není číselně určená</DIV>
<DIV>Zde z logiky samotného jazyka vyplývá, že tato hranice nemůže být
neznatelnou, tudíž je znatelná (v terénu trvale označená, viditelná,
dohledatelná)</DIV>
<DIV>ano tomu také rozumím a podepisuji</DIV>
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<DIV>Z toho mi vychází následující:</DIV>
<DIV>- může nastat jednotlivý případ, tedy bod 1) i bod 2) a nejsem sto
rozhodnout o znatelnosti/ neznatelnosti hranice</DIV>
<DIV>- může nastat i kombinace obou vyřčených pojmů vyhlášky a hranice (již z
jazykového pohledu, stejně jako je dnes lomový bod konečně bodem v jazykovém
smyslu) musí být neznatelná</DIV>
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<DIV>Nedovedu si představit, že by hranice nebyla trvale stabilizovaná a zároveň
nebyla číselně určená a byla by znatelná. To je logický nesmysl.</DIV>
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<DIV>Proto souhlasím (v tomto) se ZKI, že musí platit obě podmínky. </DIV>
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<DIV><A title=http://obcanskyzakonik.justice.cz/obecna-cast/obecne/
href="http://obcanskyzakonik.justice.cz/obecna-cast/obecne/">http://obcanskyzakonik.justice.cz/obecna-cast/obecne/</A></DIV>
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<DIV><A title=http://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?id=153
href="http://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?id=153">http://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?id=153</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Níže jsem pak vložil do textu červeně poznámky.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pěčonka Jan</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=info@petrplichta.cz
href="mailto:info@petrplichta.cz">Petr Plichta</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 14, 2014 3:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=katastr@fsv.cvut.cz
href="mailto:katastr@fsv.cvut.cz">katastr@fsv.cvut.cz</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Katastr] Neznatelná hranice</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Dobrý
den,<BR>obdrželi jsme stanoviska ZKI k některým dotazům, mimo jiné i k výkladu
"Neznatelná hranice".<BR><BR><I>§81, odst.3 </I><I></I>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">za neznatelnou se
považuje hranice, <U>jejíž lomové body nejsou označeny trvalým způsobem</U>, a
hranice, která není číselně vyjádřena. <BR></SPAN></I></P>
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proto ono <U>a </U>za ní znamená, že musí platit obě podmínky zároveň, aby mohla
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<P class=MsoNormal style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">2) Když si převedu záporné znění na kladné, je již
znatelnost jasnější:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P><I></I>
<P class=MsoNormal style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Záporné znění:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P><I></I>
<P class=MsoNormal style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">za neznatelnou se považuje hranice, jejíž lomové body
nejsou označeny trvalým způsobem, a zároveň není číselně
vyjádřena<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P><I></I>
<P class=MsoNormal style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Kladné znění:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P><I></I>
<P class=MsoNormal style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">za znatelnou se pov</SPAN></I><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">ažuje hranice, jejíž lomové body jsou označeny
trvalým způsobem, a je číselně vyjádřena<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P><I></I><BR>
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face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">Dle mého soudu je v tomto
výkladu zásadní chyba.</FONT><BR><FONT face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">1) v
§81 se mluví o NEZNATELNÉ hranici, tedy by výklad měl být, že "a" znamená, že
musí platit obě podmínky zároveň, aby byla hranice považované za NEZNATELNOU.
<FONT color=#ff0000>sohlasím</FONT><BR></FONT></P>
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2) v negaci věty je chyba, pokud neguji "a", musím dosadit "nebo". Znegovaná
věta by tedy správně měla znít:<BR>Za znatelnou se považuje hranice, jejíž
lomové body jsou označeny trvalým způsobem NEBO je číselně vyjádřena.</FONT></P>
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Arial, sans-serif"><FONT color=#ff0000>Myslím,
že v češtině nelze negovat “a” slovem “nebo”</FONT><BR></P></FONT>
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face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">Dle mého soudu tedy stačí
jen jedna z podmínek, abych mohl hranici považovat za znatelnou. <FONT
color=#ff0000>Ano, ale u neznatelné hranice. U neznatelné to
nepůjde.</FONT><BR>Co na to ostatní? Je výklad ZKI chybný a nebo je výklad
paragrafu dle právní logiky jiný, než dle logiky matematiky?<BR></FONT></P>
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